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Breeding Limits Discussion

Posted by Admin-Mat on 2 Nov 2016, 6:08 pm

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It's no mystery from looking at the Giving Tree and the User Shops that many common and uncommon animals have lost their value due to overbreeding. In animal husbandry, players should still be able to sell their common animals and make money from their breeding. It appears that exponential growth of animals, overbreeding, and unlimited breeding charges have devastated the value of animals, and will continue to do so as more players join animal husbandry and continue breeding.

So, the question is, how do we curb overbreeding to reduce the amount of animals entering the economy? There are a couple of good suggestions that have popped up over the last weeks and months which can be boiled down into the following:

1) Using the breeding charges. Some may have already noticed that the contest prize animals have breeding charges. This feature is built into all animals, and limited breeding charges ensure that animals cycle out of the economy and do not continue to produce more animals indefinitely. Common animals should have low breeding charges (say, 2-5) so they cycle out fast, while rarer animals should have more (upwards of 100 for Super Rare animals) so they can be used for a long time, as they took a while to be earned.

2) Stable Limits. It's been suggested that stable limits would help with the economy as players would no longer be able to farm animals of every type, and instead would be encouraged to focus on their favorite animals. This encourages trading as players focusing on one type of animal would trade with another player focusing on another, as both players cannot focus on all animals. Disrupting the massive breeding farms ensures that there isn't a large amount of commons being born and devaluing animals as well. One common suggestion has been limiting each villager to 50 Stables.

3) Account-wide breeding limits. Another suggestion has been simply to limit the amount of breedings a single account can perform per day. One common number has been 50-100 breedings per day. Similar to stable limits, this helps disrupt large breeding farms and limits the amount of animals entering the economy, while also encouraging players to focus on their favorite animals.

Our opinion is that some combination of #1 #2 and #3 would help the value of animals immensely. What would you change to ensure that common/uncommon animals retain their value?

Another idea: revamp the Breeding Potion to be required to breed a pair of animals. This would give Alchemy a good new kick in value. The Breeding Potion could use some adjustments like making the ingredient list simpler, but it would add a dimension of complexity to breeding and connect Animal Husbandry to Alchemy.

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    • #2 and #3 seem like the best options, at least in my opinion.


    • I think that the 3rd option alone is the most reasonable. Please, if you are going to implement a combination of adjustments, do not use option 1. The 1st option is a very bad idea because it would then cause a flood of animals that can no longer breed into stalls and the giving tree, which is honestly worse than a flood of breedable animals. If you want my honest opinion? This doesn't really need to be changed at all. AH was already made more difficult by the last few updates and we're all still adjusting.


    • i'd prefer #2 the most, #3 is ok too, but dislike #1 the most. By a lot.



    • I like two and three.

      Breeding charges make things unnecessarily complicated, moreso than you'd think.


    • None of this seems particularly fun, but that's what we're hre for I guess. #3 gets my vote. I would rather have a daily cap on breeding than any other kind of restriction, because everyone plays differently in AH. Personally I didn't mind donating all my common and uncommon colour offspring to the tree because it'd make someone happy. I could've just sold them, but, you know. Why not help a fellow collector and breeder out, I thought this was all about team spirit XD


    • I like the idea of stable limits and account breeding limits, but breeding charges for the animals doesn't really sit well with me tbh? Especially on rarer animals ((whether that's a high number or not, it still means they run out and if you bred or bought it specifically for breeding eventually it sorta defeats the purpose of having it and then like... what do you do with it then?))


    • All these ideas sound great, and are definitely necessary for the game!


    • Man, I only like the third option. :/


    • 3 is pretty excessive, but I mean, all would work, I guess.